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		<title>By: brocadegoddess</title>
		<link>http://yourwardrobeunlockd.wordpress.com/2008/11/17/poll-results-the-finalists-are-announced/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>brocadegoddess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I would like to point out regarding the &quot;saque&quot; dress - just if you&#039;re interested in it because you haven&#039;t made one before: it&#039;s not a real saque.  You can see in the photo that the pleats falling from the shoulder are a seperate piece of fabric from the rest of the dress.  This was an adaptation made as the sack-back style was on its way out at the end of the 18th century.  The proper sack-back is cut all in one with the rest of the dress, pleated, and made fitted by way of the bodice lining.

I know this probably doesn&#039;t matter to most people, nor should it really.  I just thought I&#039;d point out that if you&#039;re into it for the experience, or to have one of these, you might want to bear this in mind. 

Happy voting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I would like to point out regarding the &#8220;saque&#8221; dress &#8211; just if you&#8217;re interested in it because you haven&#8217;t made one before: it&#8217;s not a real saque.  You can see in the photo that the pleats falling from the shoulder are a seperate piece of fabric from the rest of the dress.  This was an adaptation made as the sack-back style was on its way out at the end of the 18th century.  The proper sack-back is cut all in one with the rest of the dress, pleated, and made fitted by way of the bodice lining.</p>
<p>I know this probably doesn&#8217;t matter to most people, nor should it really.  I just thought I&#8217;d point out that if you&#8217;re into it for the experience, or to have one of these, you might want to bear this in mind. </p>
<p>Happy voting!</p>
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		<title>By: GinaB</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>delirium71, I wanted the coat too!

I have to agree with the comments, although the regency would be simpler because of the way we can ignore (more or less) the undergarments, it really isn&#039;t the nicest example. Although perhaps that&#039;s the point, we should be thinking how we can make it better, using the basic pattern?

Other than that, I suppose I can&#039;t really decide between the 1860s or the sacque. Neither are of any practical use to me, so I reckon if I am going to be able to waste the money needed for the fabric, I may as well go with one I have more of an interest in trying (the sacque), although the 1860s could be better adapted to something unusually modern perhaps... See, I can&#039;t even decide as I type! This is going to be very tough. Perhaps we need an independent adjudicator....

Perhaps I&#039;ll find someone with curtains I can use, isn&#039;t it great that we all go back to that scene?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>delirium71, I wanted the coat too!</p>
<p>I have to agree with the comments, although the regency would be simpler because of the way we can ignore (more or less) the undergarments, it really isn&#8217;t the nicest example. Although perhaps that&#8217;s the point, we should be thinking how we can make it better, using the basic pattern?</p>
<p>Other than that, I suppose I can&#8217;t really decide between the 1860s or the sacque. Neither are of any practical use to me, so I reckon if I am going to be able to waste the money needed for the fabric, I may as well go with one I have more of an interest in trying (the sacque), although the 1860s could be better adapted to something unusually modern perhaps&#8230; See, I can&#8217;t even decide as I type! This is going to be very tough. Perhaps we need an independent adjudicator&#8230;.</p>
<p>Perhaps I&#8217;ll find someone with curtains I can use, isn&#8217;t it great that we all go back to that scene?!</p>
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		<title>By: Kayt</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re all lovely... I&#039;ll happily make whichever one wins, but it&#039;s true that they&#039;ll all require underpinnings!

In response to Alice (I know this is off-topic, BUT...) In &quot;Gone With the Wind&quot; when they&#039;re making the dress, ALL the girls worked on it, at least in the book. That&#039;s Scarlett, Melly, Suellen, Careen, Mammy, Dilcy and possibly even Prissy (scary thought!). With six or seven women, all of whom (except Prissy...) would&#039;ve been experienced seamstresses, it would&#039;ve taken no time at all. In fact, if I remember correctly, it was two or three days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re all lovely&#8230; I&#8217;ll happily make whichever one wins, but it&#8217;s true that they&#8217;ll all require underpinnings!</p>
<p>In response to Alice (I know this is off-topic, BUT&#8230;) In &#8220;Gone With the Wind&#8221; when they&#8217;re making the dress, ALL the girls worked on it, at least in the book. That&#8217;s Scarlett, Melly, Suellen, Careen, Mammy, Dilcy and possibly even Prissy (scary thought!). With six or seven women, all of whom (except Prissy&#8230;) would&#8217;ve been experienced seamstresses, it would&#8217;ve taken no time at all. In fact, if I remember correctly, it was two or three days.</p>
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		<title>By: Shari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well if I HAVE to choose, then my vote goes out to:
1860s Day Dress!!!
Why?
Because of the versatillity, you have a bolero jacket, a bodice and a skirt.
These you can embellish is sooo many ways, embroidery,special fabrics,adding soutache cord,tassels,fringes,roses,laces and so and on.

It&#039;s big so you can be extravagant and details will be more noticed then on a less Grande outfit.
But using as special fabric and leaving it at that, can be equally gorgeous!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if I HAVE to choose, then my vote goes out to:<br />
1860s Day Dress!!!<br />
Why?<br />
Because of the versatillity, you have a bolero jacket, a bodice and a skirt.<br />
These you can embellish is sooo many ways, embroidery,special fabrics,adding soutache cord,tassels,fringes,roses,laces and so and on.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s big so you can be extravagant and details will be more noticed then on a less Grande outfit.<br />
But using as special fabric and leaving it at that, can be equally gorgeous!</p>
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		<title>By: Absintheskiss</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two of mine made it in.  I love the Regency look on others, but being very heavy busted I would look like a sack of spuds.  I adore the 1860&#039;s day dress to bits because it appears to be made of different parts.  The skirt, the blouse and the jacket which all have their scope for creativity and the lines are quite plain (if not simple) which means you can be as complex as you like with your decoration. You can also tackle one piece of it at a time. 

After that?  The Sacque back gown.  Not made one before so it will be a real learning experience for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two of mine made it in.  I love the Regency look on others, but being very heavy busted I would look like a sack of spuds.  I adore the 1860&#8217;s day dress to bits because it appears to be made of different parts.  The skirt, the blouse and the jacket which all have their scope for creativity and the lines are quite plain (if not simple) which means you can be as complex as you like with your decoration. You can also tackle one piece of it at a time. </p>
<p>After that?  The Sacque back gown.  Not made one before so it will be a real learning experience for me.</p>
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		<title>By: delirium71</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pah! neither of my two favourites are in. I did vote for the sacque back, but it was my third choice for practicalities sake. I was hoping for either the caraco or the 1914 coat.

I&#039;m not keen on the regency dress. I&#039;m pretty sure that would make me look like a bundle of washing tied in the middle. 

Also, do we not want something that&#039;s quite complex and stretching, something that&#039;s fodder for a wide array of tutorials, and with a lot of scope for adaptation. There again, I&#039;m not sure the regency dress, or that particular regency dress,  is the best option for that.

The other three offer more options for variation I would say. I &#039;m swinging towards the 1860s day dress, which surprises me. Whatever, the cost of fabric is going to hurt a bit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pah! neither of my two favourites are in. I did vote for the sacque back, but it was my third choice for practicalities sake. I was hoping for either the caraco or the 1914 coat.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not keen on the regency dress. I&#8217;m pretty sure that would make me look like a bundle of washing tied in the middle. </p>
<p>Also, do we not want something that&#8217;s quite complex and stretching, something that&#8217;s fodder for a wide array of tutorials, and with a lot of scope for adaptation. There again, I&#8217;m not sure the regency dress, or that particular regency dress,  is the best option for that.</p>
<p>The other three offer more options for variation I would say. I &#8216;m swinging towards the 1860s day dress, which surprises me. Whatever, the cost of fabric is going to hurt a bit!</p>
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		<title>By: Adylith</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really quite impressed with all 4 of the final choices. Under normal circumstances, I would leap at the chance to make any of those gowns.

However, I do think it might be better to do a gown that didn&#039;t require specific undergarments. Both of the Victorians really would require a corset and some kind of skirt support, and the sacque would need a corset at the least.  Don&#039;t get me wrong, I&#039;ve made corsets and hoops, they don&#039;t scare me, I just think they might add more to this project than some people were planning on. 

Yes, all of those gowns could be done without undergarments, but we&#039;re a bunch of costumers. Most of us want to do things, well, the hard way (or at least the long way which includes every little nuance we can find). 

Don&#039;t get me wrong. If I had all of my own underpinnings for all the eras, I&#039;d be jumping on that sacque gown. I just thing that given not everyone has underpinnings already, and many may not want to make them, I think we should go with the Empire gown for simplicity&#039;s sake. Yes, that period had underpinnings too, but they&#039;re far more simplistic than either the Rococo or Victorian periods and can be mostly ignored and still achieve the proper shape. 

Just my 2 cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really quite impressed with all 4 of the final choices. Under normal circumstances, I would leap at the chance to make any of those gowns.</p>
<p>However, I do think it might be better to do a gown that didn&#8217;t require specific undergarments. Both of the Victorians really would require a corset and some kind of skirt support, and the sacque would need a corset at the least.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I&#8217;ve made corsets and hoops, they don&#8217;t scare me, I just think they might add more to this project than some people were planning on. </p>
<p>Yes, all of those gowns could be done without undergarments, but we&#8217;re a bunch of costumers. Most of us want to do things, well, the hard way (or at least the long way which includes every little nuance we can find). </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong. If I had all of my own underpinnings for all the eras, I&#8217;d be jumping on that sacque gown. I just thing that given not everyone has underpinnings already, and many may not want to make them, I think we should go with the Empire gown for simplicity&#8217;s sake. Yes, that period had underpinnings too, but they&#8217;re far more simplistic than either the Rococo or Victorian periods and can be mostly ignored and still achieve the proper shape. </p>
<p>Just my 2 cents.</p>
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		<title>By: brocadegoddess</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to go against the grain here so far and say that the regency gown is my least favourite of the finalists.  I actually don&#039;t think it&#039;s that great an example, it looks kind of like a sack cinched under the bust to me.

Speaking of sacks/saques, since I&#039;m HEAVILY steeped in the 18th century in terms of making until about March, and writing until next Sept (it&#039;s my MA), I&#039;d REALLY REALLY rather do something else!

I think the 1860s dress could so easily provide immense scope for creativity either in terms of historicity or interpretation, there are so many nifty details to play with!

However, for the direction I want to take I&#039;ll be voting for the bustle dress.  I also think that it may be more manageable for more people than the 1860s example.

I have to admit that I&#039;d seriously reconsider participating if the Regency dress won, this particular example just doesn&#039;t do anything for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to go against the grain here so far and say that the regency gown is my least favourite of the finalists.  I actually don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s that great an example, it looks kind of like a sack cinched under the bust to me.</p>
<p>Speaking of sacks/saques, since I&#8217;m HEAVILY steeped in the 18th century in terms of making until about March, and writing until next Sept (it&#8217;s my MA), I&#8217;d REALLY REALLY rather do something else!</p>
<p>I think the 1860s dress could so easily provide immense scope for creativity either in terms of historicity or interpretation, there are so many nifty details to play with!</p>
<p>However, for the direction I want to take I&#8217;ll be voting for the bustle dress.  I also think that it may be more manageable for more people than the 1860s example.</p>
<p>I have to admit that I&#8217;d seriously reconsider participating if the Regency dress won, this particular example just doesn&#8217;t do anything for me.</p>
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		<title>By: yourward</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary, did you get the email with instructions? You may need to check your spam folder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary, did you get the email with instructions? You may need to check your spam folder.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never figured out how to vote for the pattern the first time around, but I want to vote for the sacque back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never figured out how to vote for the pattern the first time around, but I want to vote for the sacque back.</p>
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